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Thursday, May 2, 2024
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Point of View’s host today is Kerby Anderson. He’s got a terrific show lined up. In the first hour he talks about about the upcoming National Day of Prayer, about the chaos on our University campuses, in our elections, and in the increasing crime rate. Then in the second hour, Kerby welcomes our first time guest, Karl Vaters. He brings us his book, De-Sizing the Church.

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Kerby Anderson
Kerby Anderson
Host, Point of View Radio Talk Show
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Kerby Anderson is host of Point of View Radio Talk Show and also serves as the President of Probe Ministries. He holds masters degrees from Yale University (science) and Georgetown University (government). He also serves as a visiting professor at Dallas Theological Seminary and has spoken on dozens of university campuses including University of Michigan, Vanderbilt University, Princeton University, Johns HopkinsRead More

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Karl Vaters Show Page
Karl Vaters
Author | Speaker | Podcast Host - The Church Lobby
KARL VATERS has served in small-church ministry for over 40 years, so he speaks and writes from decades of hands-on pastoral experience. He is the author of The Church Recovery Guide, 100 Days to a Healthier Church, Small Church Essentials, and The Grasshopper Myth. Karl also hosts a biweekly podcast, The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry. You can learn more about Karl at www.KarlVaters.com. He and his wife, Shelley, have three children and two grandkids.
Book Cover - De-sizing the Church
De-sizing the Church: How Church Growth Became a Science, Then an Obsession, and What's Next
In De-sizing the Church, pastor Karl Vaters takes us on a multi-faceted journey through our centuries-long obsession with size, both in and outside the church, and how it has negatively affected those who serve and worship in big and small congregations alike. He also dispels some prevailing myths and affirms what was good and true about the Church Growth Movement. And he invites us to consider how removing church size from the equation can be an essential element in rebuilding trust, restoring relationships, and renewing our spiritual lives.

This book reframes the way we see the size of our churches and helps us see health and fruitfulness through de-sized lenses. The result? Renewed congregations that reach surrounding communities and faithfully engage culture.
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