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Wednesday, June 11, 2025
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Welcome to our Wednesday show, host Kerby Anderson welcomes two new guests. In the first hour, he’ll bring us an update from today’s headlines. Then he’ll speak with author and trauma survivor, Lisa Saruga. Lisa brings us her new book, The Trauma Tree.

In the second hour, Kerby talks with Larry McCall. Dr. McCall is the Director of Walking Like Jesus Ministries, and he also has a new book to share, A Seasoned Marriage. Following his interview with Dr. McCall, Kerby’ll share the news that affects our lives.

It’s going to be an exciting show! Share us with your friends! He will take your calls so give us a call in-studio at 800-351-1212 or you can ask questions on Facebook by clicking on the link: facebook.com/pointofviewradio.

Kerby Anderson
Kerby Anderson
Host, Point of View Radio Talk Show
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Kerby Anderson is host of Point of View Radio Talk Show and also serves as the President of Probe Ministries. He holds masters degrees from Yale University (science) and Georgetown University (government). He also serves as a visiting professor at Dallas Theological Seminary and has spoken on dozens of university campuses including University of Michigan, Vanderbilt University, Princeton University, Johns HopkinsRead More

Guests
Lisa Saruga Show Page
Lisa Saruga, LPC
Speaker | Author | Licensed Professional Counselor | EMDR Trauma Therapist
Lisa Saruga is a licensed professional counselor, EMDR trauma therapist, speaker, and author. She’s certified as a legal and ethical specialist by the American School Counselor Association. Lisa’s advocacy extends to legislative efforts for survivor justice and her impactful contributions as a writer, notably in Carolyn B. Stone’s Ethics and Law: School Counseling Principles. Her debut book, The Trauma Tree, signifies a new chapter in her commitment to empowering others, marking her as a prominent voice in the field.
Book Cover - The Trauma Tree
The Trauma Tree: Going Beyond Survival, Growing Toward Wholeness
Trauma is a liar. It claims that all hope is lost and that pain dictates your life. Lisa Saruga understands this struggle deeply. As a licensed counselor, trauma therapist, and a victim of sexual assault, she's been there, and she knows the way out.
The Trauma Tree is a companion for your healing journey. Saruga walks with you through her own story and the stories of survivors, demonstrating how you can move through trauma, avoid re-traumatization, and grow stronger in your mind, body, and spirit.
Larry McCall Show Page
Larry McCall, DMin
Author | Pastor | Director - Walk Like Jesus Ministries
Larry E. McCall, DMin, serves as the director of Walking Like Jesus Ministries. He served as the lead pastor at Christ’s Covenant Church of Winona Lake, Indiana for over 30 years, followed by more than ten years on the pastoral staff.

McCall is a graduate of Grace College, Grace Theological Seminary, and has a Doctor of Ministry degree from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. He has written numerous articles for publications and is the author of Walking Like Jesus Did, Loving Your Wife as Christ Loves the Church, Grandparenting with Grace, and A Seasoned Marriage.

This year, Larry and his high school sweetheart, Gladine, will celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary. Since he is now semi-retired from pastoral ministry, they are enjoying this season of life, spending intentional time with family while traveling to teach seminars focusing on marriage and grandparenting.

The McCalls have three married children and seven grandchildren.
Book Cover - A Seasoned Marriage
A Seasoned Marriage: Living the Gospel in the Middle Years and Beyond
Life is different than it was on your wedding day years ago. You are different, your spouse is different, and so is your marriage. In the middle and later decades of life, we all face situations we didn’t think about as young married couples such as maintaining relationships with adult children, planning for retirement, navigating health struggles, preventing marital monotony, and investing time into the lives of our grandchildren.

With warmth and wisdom, pastor Larry McCall encourages readers that these new challenges can be blessings and are all wonderful opportunities to grow in your care for one another as you reflect the love of Christ. In the face of the next season of life, it is possible for your relationship to grow even sweeter.
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